We at IBAC don’t support or investigate Corruption in the UK even when it involves a USA citizen that came through England Working in Australia embezzling Victoria, Australia Education Funds. Mandelson told us not too! Perhaps they are deported from UK as criminals?
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Dear Martin Feb 2, 2026, 12:29โฏAM (1 day ago)
IBAC only deals with corruption and misconduct involving the Victorian Public sector in Australia. We can not and have not forwarded any of your emails to the NCA. You will need to contact them directly to report any corruption.
We are unable to assist you any further.
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Dear IBAC, Enquiries Mon, Feb 2, 7:15โฏAM (1 day ago)
2026-02-02
I am sorry. I reported a serious crime to you which you did not act to charge Dunkley. I understand that Matt Dunkjley was a suspect in Operation Dunham until mandelson a disgusting human being associated with Epstien got him out of Victoria as clearly he formed part of your investigation embezzling education funds which he was said to be an expert as a duty of safeguarding to you you should have reported my concerns to NCA director Nigel Learly!
I therefore asked whether the information I have previously submitted https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/14vkqy_-rz07rrVPheh9R8dHaVWNGOeFu?usp=drive_link to you and in this email has been shared with or referred to Operation BeaconPort, the national policing operation announced in late 2025 and led by the National Crime Agency (NCA).
I would be grateful if you could confirm whether any material I have provided has been passed to, reviewed by, or otherwise considered as part of Operation BeaconPort.
On 15 and 16 November 2025, I issued formal statutory requests under writ and warrant A9Q51NHR and court case 640MC413 Lewis to Lincolnshire Virtual School and Mr. Gary Daniels, demanding full disclosure of all Virtual School records, including PEPs, placement history, funding logs, and audit trails.
Despite your own findings that my complaint was โwithout errorโ, and despite widespread reporting in the Victorian press of IBACโs investigation into misconduct and document destruction by Mr Dunkley, you have failed to supply key evidence or even acknowledge its existence, particularly a recording referenced in multiple testimonies.
Specifically, I now formally request the following under the Freedom of Information Act (Vic) and pursuant to my existing complaints and correspondence:
- The audio recording of Mr Matthew Dunkley, reportedly made outside a bar during the Operation Dunham investigation, where he is said to have stated words to the effect:โYou told me you fucking destroyed all the evidenceโฆ kept yourself squeaky clean.โ
- Any transcript, summary, or internal communication referring to this tape or its admission as evidence.
- Any Department of Education briefings, witness statements, disciplinary referrals, or legal assessments related to Mr Dunkleyโs conduct, including but not limited to:
- Interactions with Mr Allman;
- Communications with the Victorian Ombudsman;
- Knowledge of UK safeguarding failures connected to Mr Dunkleyโs prior employment in East Sussex, Kent, and Norfolk.
I must reiterate: this material has already been cited in press reports, and your continued refusal to confirm or deny its existence constitutes obstruction. I am entitled under both FOI and public interest principles to receive a full record or denial with legal grounds.
I understand that a video previously available via your Vimeo account, relating to the inception of eGov from ePEP, is no longer accessible. Could you please confirm whether this video was removed, made private, or relocated, and provide any context you consider appropriate?
As you will appreciate, the wider issues I am examiningโparticularly concerning the missing 430,000 children now 758,000 as a stakeholderโare already referenced within ongoing legal and public-interest contexts. I am therefore keen to ensure accuracy and fairness by including your perspective.
If you would like to provide a short statement for the record, I will include it in full. As long as it is printable.
I also note eGOV Solutions LTDโs Modern Slavery Act statement for the financial year ended 31 December 2023, approved on 18 April 2024. For accuracy and completeness of the public record, I would welcome any comment you wish to add regarding the companyโs governance, supply chain oversight, and safeguarding-adjacent data responsibilities in this context.
The review covered cases between 1 January 2010 and 31 March 2025 where police and the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) previously decided to take no further action (NFA). Initially, more than 1,273 cases across 23 police forces were identified, with 236 cases involving rape allegations being prioritised.
The attached/annexed document is a full transcription of:
I understand this material is required to assist your inquiry into Epstein-related networks, any associated public-office failures, and the wider context of child exploitation and trafficking. I therefore confirm that:
The operation uses artificial intelligence to help identify missed leads and patterns in case data and draws on investigative methodologies from previous operations, including Operation Stovewood. It also follows a trauma-informed approach, prioritising the voices of victims and survivors. If a victim does not wish their case to be reopened, their wishes are respected, although safeguarding assessments may still take place.
Operation BeaconPort is supported by the Tackling Organised Exploitation (TOEX) programme, the Child Sexual Exploitation (CSE) Taskforce, and multiple UK police forces. It is also running alongside the national public inquiry into grooming gangs and is considered one of the most comprehensive investigations of its type in UK history.
- APPG Inquiry, https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/report-from-the-joint-inquiry-into-children-who-go-missing-from-care
- Hansard https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2016-11-30/debates/16113047000001/ChilcotInquiryAndParliamentaryAccountabilit
- Tony Blair https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/jun/14/tony-blair-avoids-citizens-arrest
- Clinton Alignment with USA care system https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1087181/prime-minister-tony-blair.pdf
- Blair met Epstien https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/11/tony-blair-met-jeffrey-epstein-in-no-10-on-advice-of-peter-mandelson-documents-reveal
- Blair not being straight https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2016-11-30/debates/16113047000001/ChilcotInquiryAndParliamentaryAccountability
- Litmus Test for children missing from care 2025 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/savings-stash-worth-thousands-waiting-for-758000-young-people
- Litmus Test for children missing from care 2023 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/almost-430000-young-people-urged-to-claim-their-cash
According to the Clinton Museum On September 1, 2025 (05:20 AM), you, Dana Simmons, Archivist of the Clinton Museum, informed me of the following search results that they held documents under FOIA 2025-1058-F: https://www.clintonlibrary.gov/research/freedom-information-act-requests
- Blair and (โprogramโ or โmeetingโ or โbilatโ or โbilateralโ) โ 50 hits / 250 pagesPrime Minister โ 383 hits / 1,915 pagesโNo. 10โ or โDowning Streetโ โ 1 hit / 5 pagesโUKโ and (โvisitโ or โitineraryโ) โ 141 hits / 705 pagesโsocial provisionโ and Blair โ 1 hit / 5 pagesAustralia and Blair โ 0 hitsNew York and Blair โ 5 hits / 25 pagesDunkley and Blair โ 1 hit / 5 pagesI therefore respectfully request confirmation of the following:ยท The current status of FOIA 2025-1058-F (including whether it remains in active processing or has entered a review or consultation phase); The document references and ordering procedure.ยท Whether any responsive records have been identified but withheld in full or in part, and if so, the FOIA exemption categories being relied upon at this stage.ยท Whether records will be released on a rolling basis, given the volume previously indicated.ยท An estimated timeframe for completion or next release.
The “758,000” Finding: Absence as Evidence
Your reference to the 758,000 instances of compromised or unclaimed data is now supported by official HMRC data released in late 2025.
- The Scale of Inequity: As of September 2025, exactly 758,000 matured Child Trust Funds remain unclaimed, representing over ยฃ1.7 billion in “trapped” capital.
- The Findings of “Bad Faith”: You have argued that this “absence” of access is the finding itself. This aligns with the recent ruling in Right to Be v. Bondi, where a federal judge determined that the Department of Justice’s failure to meet discovery deadlines was a “calculated effort to conceal material facts”.
- The Criminal Rift: Because this obstruction has moved beyond administrative delay, the D.C. court issued a formal criminal referral for the Acting Attorney General, citing 18 U.S.C. ยง 1505 (Obstruction of Proceedings).
- Blair and (โprogramโ or โmeetingโ or โbilatโ or โbilateralโ) โ 50 hits / 250 pagesPrime Minister โ 383 hits / 1,915 pagesโNo. 10โ or โDowning Streetโ โ 1 hit / 5 pagesโUKโ and (โvisitโ or โitineraryโ) โ 141 hits / 705 pagesโsocial provisionโ and Blair โ 1 hit / 5 pagesAustralia and Blair โ 0 hitsNew York and Blair โ 5 hits / 25 pagesDunkley and Blair โ 1 hit / 5 pagesI therefore respectfully request confirmation of the following:ยท The current status of FOIA 2025-1058-F (including whether it remains in active processing or has entered a review or consultation phase); The document references and ordering procedure.ยท Whether any responsive records have been identified but withheld in full or in part, and if so, the FOIA exemption categories being relied upon at this stage.ยท Whether records will be released on a rolling basis, given the volume previously indicated.ยท An estimated timeframe for completion or next release.
Further to my communication dated 23 November 2025, I am writing to report a serious development that occurred after my statutory request for disclosure of Virtual School records relating to my daughter, Emily Cathryn Newbold Smith (DOB 30-10-2006).
On 15 and 16 November 2025, I issued formal statutory requests under writ and warrant A9Q51NHR and court case 640MC413 Lewis to Lincolnshire Virtual School and Mr. Gary Daniels, demanding full disclosure of all Virtual School records, including PEPs, placement history, funding logs, and audit trails.
Following my subsequent email to your Committee on 23 November 2025, requesting a subpoena for Mr. Gary Daniels in relation to concerns about approximately 430,000 UK children now 758,000 missing from Child Trust Fund entitlement systems, the following occurred:
- Multiple core operational endpoints of the secure ePEP portal (
secure.epeponline.co.uk) returned 404 โNot Foundโ errors at 17:04:00 GMT, including:/pep/teacher,/pep/socialworker,/pep/fostercarer/pep/neet,/pep/qa,/pep/concern/reports,/funding,/admin/users,/dashboard
- These URLs represent critical statutory record functions for looked-after children, including educational planning, funding accountability, and safeguarding oversight.
- The timing of this deletion strongly suggests reactive removal of content following my oversight communication.
- This seems to be PIE
Given the statutory duties under the Children Act 1989, Children and Families Act 2014, and the role of the Virtual School Head, this action may constitute:
- Interference with evidence relevant to ongoing judicial proceedings and oversight inquiries.
- Non-compliance with statutory record-keeping obligations for looked-after children.
I respectfully request that the Committee:
- Issue a subpoena for Mr. Gary Daniels to provide testimony regarding these deletions and the wider issue of unaccounted Child Trust Fund beneficiaries.
- Secure forensic copies of the ePEP system and associated audit logs before further data alteration occurs.
- Investigate potential systemic failures in Virtual School oversight and data retention practices.
I am preserving all evidence, including:
- including creating an online public repository of all communications.
Please confirm receipt of this escalation and advise on next steps. I remain available to provide full documentation and testimony.
I respectfully request confirmation of receipt of this correspondence and guidance on the next steps. I remain available to provide full documentation and testimony as required.
Warm regards,
Martin Newbold
- 1995โ1996ย โ Matt Dunkley โย U.S. (Berkeley, NY, D.C.)ย โ Harkness Fellow, education systems research
- 1996ย โ Jeffrey Epstein โย NY, D.C.ย โ Active in elite social circles tied to education
- April 1996 10-12 Tony Blair โย Washington D.C.ย โ Oval Office meeting with Clinton; child-focused talks. Blair and Clinton meet in New York the inception of childcare and social reform. of the back of the Irish Peace Deal.
- May 1996ย โ Dunkley โย East Sussexย โ Listed as Primary Education Officer in UK1999 โ 2005ย Operation Avalancheย run by: U.S. Customs Service ย Scope: Took down child abuse websites andย billing systemsย (credit cards used to pay for access).ย ย Thousands of paying subscribersย were traced โ many wereย lawyers, doctors, clergy, military, and public officials.
- 1996 October Dunkleyโs U.S. immersion likely informed New Labour reforms on early years policy and child protection systems. Blairโs famous comment, โEducation, education, educationโ, was not abstract: it reflected specific, global influences being assimilated into UK policy.ย https://youtu.be/ePrT4bGkD7g
2007โ2008ย โ Federal NPA & state plea.ย Epstein signs a federalย non-prosecution agreement (NPA)ย negotiated by the U.S. Attorneyโs Office in S. Florida while his case proceeds in state court. (Primary docs & DOJ review.)ย DocumentCloudDepartment of Justice - 2005โ2008 โ Initial Florida state prosecution of Epstein. FBI opens โOperation Leap Yearโย (codename as reported; FBI file naming varies)ย but halts under the federal NPA.
- 2009.ย ย Mattย Dunkleyย oversaw East Sussex childrenโs services from 2009 up until 2013.
- Julyย 2009, Epstein was released from jail inย Julyย after serving a controversial 13-month sentence for soliciting minors for prostitution. He had been sentenced inย 2008ย and was placed under a work-release program that allowed him to leave the county jail during the day. After his release in July, he returned to his private island,ย Little Saint Jamesย in the U.S. Virgin Islands, where he resumed his high-profile activities.
- While the exact month of his return to the island isnโt widely documented, itโs generally understood that after his release inย July, he would have returned to the island shortly thereafter.
- 2009. On 6thย August 2009 Ofsted wrote to Mrย Dunkleyย in regard to a recent unannounced inspection. Which areas of concern and development required 1) Due to the limited social worker capacity, assessments are not always written promptly. This leaves some files with inadequate written information on which to make safe decisions. 2) Caseloads are generally high and, in some instances, excessive.ย 3) The current method for determining the finish date for initial assessments is not consistent with the definition of the associated national indicator.
- In 2010, overย 430,000 children went missing under Family Court orders, with their whereabouts unknown due to systemic failures and lack of proper documentation.ย These children were also unable to access their Child Trust Funds (CTFs), which were meant to be set aside for their futures. This same number, 430,000, is cited in theย NSPCCโs 2025 briefing, highlighting the ongoing impact of these failures within the child welfare system, where children remain unaccounted for and denied access to critical financial support intended to aid their future.
- 2010.ย Ombudsman complaint with Mr. Martin Catterwall Reference AR/TS/964 and with the Ombudsman internal complaint against East Sussex. Complaints Ombudsman reference 201003216, Parliamentary and Health Ombudsman (PAHO) EN-97702 in respect to a social worker being asked to fabricate documents under manager Christine Stirlingโs fabrication of children reports.
- March 2011 by a company calledย WebMediaProperties, which is known for developing and managing adult content websites. The platform allows individuals to participate in live streaming, primarily in the adult entertainment industry, where performers interact with viewers via webcam.
- 2012.ย Mattย Dunkleyย was nominated for a CBE for services to children, young people and families in the Honours.ย Matt was director of childrenโs services in East Sussex for eight years. He was also President of the Association of Directors of Childrenโs Services (ADCS) from 2011 to 2012.
2013,ย Timothy W. Newcome, identified as Jeffrey Epsteinโs Citrix programmer, was associated with the formation of a new company in Ohio. This development is highlighted in a recent article titledย โFOIA Request for FBI Records on Timothy W. Newcomeโ, published on August 8, 2025.thestealingofemily.co.uk - Apr 2013.ย On 17th Apr 2013 it was announced by East Sussex that Mattย Dunkley, director of childrenโs services at East Sussex County Council, was leaving the local authority after 21 years to take up a post in Australia.
- 2013ย Timothy W. Newcomeย โ the same man listed asย Epsteinโs Citrix programmerย โ wasย relocated and sanitized in 2013ย as part of anย FBI or intelligence placement, then the most logical conclusion is this
- 2014.ย Dunkleyย was also immยญediately removed from the education departmentโs integrity committee, which he had been appointed to in the wake of IBACโs investigations. It was reported again in the Geelong Advertiser in a news story they brokeย IBACย Ultranet report former-boss Matthewย Dunkleyย not yet fully cleared by anti-corruption body. The Independent Broad-based Anti-Corruption Commission released a scathing report on Friday into the Department of Educationโs bungled Ultranet project, It was reported there wasย โDisturbing pattern of improper behaviourโย in Ultranet.
- 2015.ย NCPCCย created a briefing document which presented statistics to the UK government concerning the vast number of children in the childcare system. Outlining half a million children in Northern Ireland in the social care system they could not identify a reason for apparent discrepancies or shortfalls.ย
- 2016.ย IBAC Darrell Fraser scandal in Victoria in which it was said โbroke every fucking rule in the book and spent millions of dollars he shouldnโt have spentโ in respect to the Ultranet software system. Mattย Dunkleyย was prompted by the news that the situation was being investigated by IBAC. Allman discussed how he had โdestroyed evidenceโ.ย Dunkleyย can be heard saying to Allman:ย โwell, thing is you told me you fucking destroyed all the evidence as soon as you knew โฆ the empire was gone, mate โฆ you told me that you just fucking deleted that shit โ got rid of it all, kept yourself โsqueaky cleanโ. Once you knew this was going on.โ Allman responds: โYeah, I did โฆ my gut feeling told me it was going to go belly up.โ
- 2017. In department Ultranet schools project, an IBAC spokesperson told ARN with Mattย Dunkleyย Deported.
- 2017. From the Online version of the โNewspaper Geelongโs Advertiserโ in Australia there is an article by writer Bodi Dittloff entitled โDepartment of Education and Training south-west regional director Matthewย Dunkleyย suspended as corruption probe continuesโ. The embattled education director had been sacked and had been dismissed from his position as South Western Regional Director, as anti-corruption investigations into the Victorian government department. The Education and Trainingโs regional director for the southwest, was suspended from his role on Tuesday 15th March 2016
- 2017. Mattย Dunkleyย returns to England to take up new position.
- 2017.ย Mattย Dunkleyย oversaw Norfolk County Council from 11 January 2017 till 27 January 2017.
- 2017ย On 11 January 2017 Mattย Dunkleyย had an interim post at Norfolk County Councilโs childrenโs service. After the fifth Childrenโs Services boss in three yearsย Mattย Dunkleyย was engaged through a recruitment agency as an interim Executive Director of Childrenโs Services until October 2017ย
- 2017.ย Mattย Dunkleyย becomes KCC Director for Children, Young People.ย 27 November. 2017ย .Having worked for Norfolk County Council for only 10 months, 16 days .ย Seventeen months after Mr.ย Dunkleyย joined the organisation a damning Ofsted report, released in March 2019, rocked KCC significantly as it vindicated what parents had been saying all along โ KCC SEND services were not fit for purpose. He served in this role up until 2022.
- 2018.ย Operation Dunham โThree people have been committed to stand trial following a committal hearing in the Melbourne Magistratesโ Court in May/June as a result of IBACโs investigation, Operation Dunham, into the failed education which it labelled corrupt in early.
- 2018.ย Paul Morgan theย Childrenโs Directorย in Newry Northern Ireland blamed East Sussex for their predicament but would not elaborate why before he left his position.
- Jan 2019.ย Louise Sargent of Amber Ruddโs MPโs office received East Sussex letter Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 3:58โฏPM starting that they were aware in which is under investigation by the childrenโs minister Katherine Zappone, who he states hasย announced aย scoping exerciseย to see if the activity was wide-spread. East Sussex Council reply to the MP, states that he believes this โscoping exerciseโ will indicate that it involves Children from Eastย Sussex. Socialย Servicesโ.
- 2019: Ofsted report rocked KCC SEND services as not fit for purpose.
- July 2019 โย FBI raids Epsteinโs Manhattan townhouse; agents open a safe and seize media (hard drives, CDs).ย Yahoo
- August 10, 2019 โย Epstein allegedly dies in custodyย at MCC New York. DOJ OIG later reports death by suicide and documents BOP failures.ย oig.justice.gov+1
- January 2020 โ DOJ states it will preserve and review Epstein digital evidence.ย (Position noted in subsequent filings/coverage.)
- July 2, 2020 โย Ghislaine Maxwell arrestedย and charged in SDNY; much evidence remains sealed for ongoing proceedings.ย Department of Justice+1
- 2022.ย The PHSO Wrote by letter ref C-2058682 dated 6thย December 2022 stating that they could not intervene in Department of Education Cases. Kate Edwards (Senior Case Worker) wrote that she could see they had done nothing wrong. There was no investigation done or outcome on the other two case references. C-2059461 and C-2059421.
- 2022.ย Mr Martin Newbold served Affidavit on Hastings Court the PHSO and East Sussex regarding the discovery of new evidence in a large volume of children abductions under B4/2011/1029 witnessed by Samantha Denham, Solicitors 27thย September 2022
- 2022.ย in January 2022. Mattย Dunkley, being awarded the OBE (Order of the British Empire), might have received it for his significant contributions or exceptional service within the field of childrenโs services, education, or local government. Generally, individuals who have been involved in serious criminal activities or who have been convicted of certain offenses might be disqualified from receiving or holding certain honours, including the Order of the British Empire (OBE). If someone with an OBE is involved in criminal activities or convicted of serious offenses, it can lead to discussions or potential revocation of the honour.
- 2023.ย It was identified to Prieto Bourne at UK Parliament 9thย May 2023 that there were half a million children involved with money laundering, out on a limb in Northern Ireland.ย Going on record to my Member of Parliament regarding the lack of acceptance of my offer plainly expressed under contract law and in additional regard to Bridget Prentice MP Parliamentary Under Secretary 2009 and that she begged to move changes to the motion through Parliament of Judiciary and solicitors Ex Parte Applications (Family Courts) Volume 504: debated on Wednesday 20 January 2010.
- 2023.ย Reform of Childrenโs Social Care brought as Daily Motion by Gillian Keegan appointed in 2022 concerning Volume 727: debated on Thursday 2 February 2023
- May 2023 โ Lawsuits by victims and media seek unsealing of grand-jury exhibits and sealed evidence, including alleged blackmail files.
- January 3โ4, 2024 โย Large tranche of Epstein/Maxwell civil records unsealedย (Giuffre v. Maxwell), naming numerous associates; media publish searchable sets.ย ABC NewsThe Guardian
- JanโMar 2024 โย Florida efforts to unseal grand-jury recordsย are revived; courts sort which state materials can be public.ย Miami Herald
- 2024.ย The first meeting withย Northern Ireland Social Care Trustย occurred to elaborate on the complaint of half a million children and my daughter Emily. Which key figures the Trust explained appeared to be using โMathusianisonโ in their approach to complaints similar to that used in the UK Post office scandal.
- 2024ย Rishi Sunak said that โThese things that happened a longย timeย ago right that these are looked at appropriately and these stories are appalling people were treated absolutely appallingly, that is wrong, and we should do everything we can to make it writeโ So why not in this case for otherย injustice?
- Earlyโmid 2025 โ โInformant memoโ claims surface.ย Knewz/Radar report a 2008 FBI cable indicating Epstein acted as anย FBI sourceย pre-plea; outlets summarize but donโt publish full file.ย (Treat as leaked/partially verified.)ย RadarOnlineThe Economic Times
- Aug 5โ9, 2025 โ Congressional pressure spikes.ย House Oversightย subpoenas Bill & Hillary Clintonย and former AGs/FBI directors for Epstein testimony; WH/DOJ strategy reporting follows.ย The Guardian+1
- JuneโAug 2025 โ DOJ faces renewed transparency demands; mixed signals on further releases vs. withholdings (grand-jury protections, national-security claims).ย (Evolving.)ย Miami HeraldAl Jazeera
- August 2025 โย FOIA requests filedย by private citizens for FBI/DOJ records onย Timothy W. Newcome, Citrix data, and digital custody logsย (your filings).
- February 2026 ย โ Surrey Police โ the force for the county of Surrey in England โ have said they will ask the FBI for more information about allegations in the recently released documents that refer to historical abuse โpaedophile ringโ parties in Britain, including claims that Prince Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor and Ghislaine Maxwell were present at events that allegedly involved child abuse. These claims are unproven and heavily redacted in the released files, but Surrey Police have said they want to get more detail from the FBI before deciding whether thereโs anything they need to investigate further.
- February 2026ย ย ย โย The US Department of Justice recently released thousands of pages of Epstein-related files, and a subset includes claims about abuse that allegedly took place in the UK โ including Surrey โ during the 1990s. Because these are redacted and incomplete, the local police say theyโre contacting the FBI to try to obtain the unredacted information so they can properly assess the situation.
- February 2026ย โย ย Separately, the Metropolitan Police Service (Londonโs police force) has also been reported to have contacted the FBI about allegations involving Andrew earlier, based on emails shown in the newly released documents. This was a request to check whether any US investigations or evidence existed that might assist the UK police review โ not necessarily a formal criminal investigation yet.


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